Tuesday, July 28, 2009

OVERSTAND - interview with Shawn


Here we go with another cool band,with their own sound...from the depths of New Jersey,OVERSTAND!


INTRODUCE YOURSELF! MEMBERS OF THE BAND & OTHERS BAND YOU HAVE PLAYED WITH?

My name is Shawn and I "sing" in the band, although I wouldn't call it singing so much. More like a exorcism escaping through the medium of my vocal chords. Brian plays the guitar and makes wonderous riffs and sounds. Miles holds it down with the Fender Jazz Bass and Jon punishes the kit. I played bass in Charge from 2001 to the end of 2006. Brian played in Charge from 2001-2007 on the guitar.Miles played Bass in Charge after I left for a bit of 2006 into 2007. Jon played drums in a band called Pray for Death for a short time previous to Overstand.Jon, myself and 2 others have a new band in the works as well but it would be a bit premature at this time to say anything more than that.


WHEN DID THE BAND FIRST START?

The band played it's first show in May of 2008. So we have been around for a little over a year. Still a young band.


IS THERE ANYONE IN THE BAND THAT IS STRAIGHT EDGE? OR KRSHNA? HOW DO YA FEEL ABOUT THAT?

No one in the band is Straight Edge. I was a Hare Krsna devotee in the early 90's but as an adult I do not like to put labels on myself be it religious, political, etc. I do help host a Bhakti Yoga once a month in Asbury Park, NJ with a few Hare Krsna devotee friends on mine. So I am still somewhat in that circle but I am would not call myself a devotee nor want anyone to take me for an example of what a Hare Krsna devotee is. As far as how I feel about Straight Edge or Hare Krsna. I think like anything else there is an up and down side depending on the individual. I think Straight Edge, or living a Straight Edge lifestyle can be a very good thing but when people think they are superior to others because of it, then that is the start or problems. Also I have seen a lot of people that are Straight Edge, they may not be doing drugs or drinking but acting like an asshole, physical altercations, etc may have become their drug of choice.So staying clean of intoxication can be great depending on what you are doing with that "clear" head. With the Hare Krsna's...I learned a lot, especially when I was a teenager from the movement. It opened up a lot for me, it expanded my perception of life in general. As far as the cultural things, or political things within the movement. I do not pay attention nor do I care. I can personally find truth in a number of places and I do not feel I need to be part of any organized religion to define who I am.

INFLUENCES? (WHO SAID 108??)

I think everyone brings something different to the table and that is what makes it tend to be more unique. If I were to write out an influence list it would be long and may leave people wondering. I would say on part of everyone in the band we are influenced by numerous bands from all "styles" of music. I think we tend to have a heavy blues based rock influence. Say Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, Hendrix, etc. Then of course the Hardcore/Punk aspect such as bands like Bad Brains, Cro Mags, Corrosion of Conformity, Rollins Band, etc. Stuff that we really touch on very lightly, Reggae, Funk, Metal, etc.Even Hip Hop although not apparent so much in the sound sonically , it heavily influences me as a vocalist. As far as 108, I think honestly 2 of the members never even really listened to 108. I think if 108 influenced anyone it would be me as I saw them many times in the 90's in the various incarnations and they were one of my favorite bands as a kid.


WHAT'S THE CURRENT STATE OF HARDCORE UP TO YOU?

Well I think to have any type of grip on the present you need to have some sense of the roots. So you had what was called Punk Rock in the 70's which was very much a backlash to the status quo of it's time. People were doing something different with music, sonically, visually, etc. Also in terms on politics, culture, social issues, etc. You had the late 60's and the hippie culture which pretty much crashed and burned. Then out of the ash it seemed that in due time Punk Rock came up as a huge mutant monster, threw the peace signs to the wayside and waved the flag or fuck you and Anarchy. As the history goes as time went on Punk Rock seemed to have gotten watered down as many things tend to do when they hit the main stream consumer audience. Then you had what was called Hardcore/Punk. A more ferocious version of the former with somewhat more of focus on figuring out solutions to issues Punk had brought to the light. But in all that...Be it the Hippie culture of the 60's, the punk rock of the 70's and the Hardcore which came to life in the late 70's early 80's was that (dare I say!) revolutionary spirit no matter how flawed it may have been. The DIY Ethic which is very anti establishment, anti control. The political and social commentary of the music, this is as much if not more what Hardcore Punk is about then even the sound.I think now, things are watered down for sure. I was not there for the early 80's. I did not experience that first hand, so I don't know except via stories and books what that may have been like. I came in contact with this music through skateboarding in 1986 and really didn't make it to my first real show till 1990. So on that level, I have 19 years or so of first hand experience with Hardcore/Punk to base my opinion on. From what I have experienced first hand I have seen without a doubt a dwindling of that Revolutionary fire that I experienced as a kid. There seemed to be a lot more information being shared. A lot more concern on what was actually being put out there on the level of thought, ideas, etc. Now the sound, the style, the social scene seems to have over run the actual essence and spirit of the music. I'm not saying it's dead or it does not exist, it does. But I think it exists for the few. While the masses within Hardcore are just consumers in a different costume so to speak.On a certain level Hardcore has lost it's bite and really presents no threat what so ever at this point to the status quo and forced fed shit of the power's that be. That said, I do not think all is lost or I would no longer participate on any level. I just think a certain level of evolution is in order for it stay real and worthwhile.


IS IT GOOD FOR HARDCORE TO DEAL WITH RELIGION? IT'S PRETTY EASY TO PICK UP A RELIGIOUS STANCE FOR A BAND RIGHT NOW? AND YEARS AGO? HOW ARE THE KIDS RIGHT NOW ,ARE THEY MENTALLY OPEN OR...?

I think religion is one thing, an established order, etc. It tends to be dirty, political, etc. Many of the disgusting things through out our human history have been done in the name of Religion therefore Religion will always be looked at with skepticism at the least and Hate at the extreme.Spirituality seems to be more personal, more mystical and more of a evolving path then a rigid guide line with dogmatic answers to life.Spiritual culture has been there from the start, The Clash, Sex Pistols, The Damned, etc...all those bands were somehow connected with the Rasta/Reggae culture in England. Johnny Rotten went to Jamaica and hung with the Rastafarians, obviously The Clash had a heavy reggae influence, etc. So that connection to some sort of spiritual culture however loose it may have been was there. Then you had the Bad Brains in 1979 which blasted out on a whole other level. Then the Cro Mags in the mid 80's and bands like Shelter and 108 in the early 90's. I'm not saying all the results were positive, I'm just saying how it seemed to unfold. I think in the 90's you had a lot of open minds. Some people investigated and treaded softly, some people may have followed blindly as it seemed the fashion of the day. Then you had the opposite end of the spectrum with an almost blind hate for anything that could be termed "Religious" or "Spiritual". Then there of course were those who totally indifferent. I do think that there was a lot of good that came from that spiritual influx in Hardcore in the early 90's and I'm sure there was negativity as well. As for the present I think this cynical, nihilism seems to be very popular. Maybe with good reason but I feel the outcome of that will not be positive. I personally think the best thing religion or spiritual thought in Hardcore can do is inspire people to seek there own answers or paths. People need to search for these things themselves if they are interested. Only first hand experience and seeking with make a significant change in a human being.


BEST & LIFE CHANGIN LP/7'' & SHOWS?

Well there are many, many records I could name but since we are talking the subject of Hardcore, Bad Brains ROIR and pretty much all the REV 7"s of the early 90's. Burn, Quicksand, Inside Out, YOT, etc. Shows...shit...a lot. But the one that changed my life was the first I saw. Bad Brains and Leeway in 1990 @ City Gardens in Trenton NJ.



HOW DID YOU GUYS GET INTO HARDCORE PUNK? HOW HAS IT CHANGED IN THE PIT SINCE THEN?

I got into Hardcore Punk through skateboarding. Previous to that I was into Hip Hop and Breakdancing, that was around 1984. Then by 1986 I was diving into Hardcore/Punk. As far as the "pit"...no comment.


ANY LAST SHOUT OUT?

Thanks for the interview, Thank you to Adam from The Essence Records , Daniel from Cobra and Jan from Let It Ride. Thanks to the people that connect with the band and support the music. Without you, there is no us. Peace.

www.myspace.com/overstandnj

OLDE YORK - interview with Ted&Blake




Ok,since this is officially the first post of the zine,i'll give you an hint : yes they are from NY.Yes they plays the good ol NYHC i used to like and i still love...and NO,you wont find any thug-rappin shit here,just good skins (yes i said SKINS!) from the old days talkin about everyday life & speakin out their minds on everything...Enough?enough already!


FIRST,WITH WHO IVE THE PLEASURE TO TALK WITH?

I'm Ted, I'm the singer. And I'm Blake the Guitar player

INTRUDUCE YOURSELF! MEMBERS OF THE BAND & OTHERS BAND YOU HAVE PLAYED WITH?

Olde York is:Blake Farber - GuitarDev Farber - Drums (yes, they are brothers)Mike Kaufman - BassTed Wohlsen - VocalsWe've played with a lot of bands all around, Murphy's Law, No Redeeming Social Value, Hard Response...(Blake you can finish this list) Well I could keep listing and listing but then that ll take up too many pages... So lets keep it short and simple now...

WHEN THE BAND FIRST STARTED?
The band started about 5 years ago, although I (Ted) was playing bass and we had a different singer. When he quit, I took over vocals and we got a new bassist.

ASIDE OF THE OBLIVIOUS NYHC INFLUECE,ARE THERE SOME OTHERS ABROAD BANDS THAT DOES HAVE INFLUENCED YOUR STYLE? DID YOU GUYS LISTEN TO ABROAD HARDCORE? ANY FAV.?

Ted-We all listen to a lot of different stuff, and I think that comes through in our music. I think that is why we are able to have a lot of different styles, but still maintain a unique "sound".

Blake-Well the whole band always jams out to rush or trys to play it at least... I love speed/thrash metal especially from the 80s. And also into Faith No More.


IS THERE ANYONE IN THE BAND IN STRAIGHT EDGE? HOW DO YA FEEL ABOUT THAT?

Mike is straight edge and vegan, Blake and I (Ted) are vegetarians. I guess I'm the least straightedge cause I like to drink beer a lot, but none of us do drugs or smoke or anything like that.


HOW MANY RECORDS YOU'VE PUT OUT TIL NOW? HOW WAS HAVE EDDIE SUTTON FROM LEEWAY ON YOUR FIRST FULL LENGHT?


We had a demo thing that we put out, that was basically an earlier recording of some of the songs on the "Empire State" album , And a Split 7" with Dealin With It. But this is our first official album. Blake is friends with him, so he asked him to do it and he was really down to help us out. It really added a whole new level to the song "Talkin Smack".


OK,BEST SHOWS EVER SEEN?

Ted- Probably Token Entry at The Anthrax back in the late 80's.

Blake- I think one of my favorite shows that I've been to more recently was Killing Time in 2008 at the Pyramid. Was packed people singing moving and stage diving, was a classic NYHC experiance.


HOW'S LIKE THE SITUATION IN NEW YORK? I MEAN,IS THERE REALLY A DIVIDING LINE BETWEEN THE NYHC SCENE & THE NY HARDCORE PUNX SCENE? HOW DO YA FEEL ABOUT IT?WHAT ARE THE MAIN REASONS THAT HAVE SPLITTED UP THE SCENES FOR YOURS?

I think at one time there was. The was a period where it became like hardcore was really like metalcore, and I can see why the punk kids wanted to avoid that. However I think that things are changing some what. A lot of the newer NYHC bands (at least the ones we play with) are a lot more old school and based in the roots of hardcore, and the punk kids are realizing that and coming out to shows more now, even if it is a hardcore show. Granted there still are plenty of shows that are like that early 2000's style where everyone is kickboxing in the pit, but there is less of that around I think, and so it's more welcoming to everyone else who isn't there to try and be a toughguy or whatever.


ANY POSSIBLE SOLUTION TO IT?

Just keep trying to get the scenes united again. That's the way it should be. I am so tired of going to a show and its 5 or 6 bands that all sound exactly alike. Come on, through some difference in there, change it up. When I came up in the scene that is the way it was, you would have a hardcore band, a punk band, a ska band, and some arty freakshow all sharing the same stage, and it was cool!


DO YOU CONSIDER YOURSELVES LIKE SKINS OR PUNKS?UP TO U ,IS THERE REALLY A NEED TO CLASSIFY/LABEL OURSELVES OR ITS MORE A QUESTION OF FEELING? EXPLAIN YOUR CHOICE.


(Ted)I consider myself a skin, but certainly NOT a bonehead, let me very clear about that! I believe in a working class ethic, supporting and having honor for your family and friends, etc. I think everyone else in the band would probably be considered hardcore kids? Except for maybe Dev, he defys classification. Definately no one would be considered punks in the stereotypical sense (Spikey hair, leather jackets with lots of studs, etc...)


(Blake)Though I grew up a street punk kid when younger. though we all are when you consider the real meaning of hardcore as being short for hardcore punk. I think labels help people get a frame of reference about things. Like if you say "Oh Johnny? He's a skin." the listener has a very definite sense of what Johnny is about, at least on the surface. But I do think it gets way over used too. Like taking any kind of music and adding -core to the end of it, metalcore, rapcore, gospelcore, etc...It's kinda ridiculous. Most of the time they have nothing to do with hardcore at all.


WHATS LIKE THE NY SITUATION FOR WHAT CONCERN THE VENUES NOW?ITS REALLY HARD HOW IT SEEMS TO BE? WHATS UP WITH PROMOTERS?WHY THE GODFATHERS OF THE SCENE DONT PLAY WITH PUNK OR OI BANDS ANYMORE,BUT WITH METAL BANDS?WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENED?!


Actually, I would say that the situation with venues is getting better. I mean it is still hard to get people in NYC to come out for shows, unless its someone really big, and Manhattan has not a whole lot of places to play for hardcore bands right now, though there are one or two spots, but Brooklyn has a bunch of places, some are even all ages, which is good to see. You have good promoters and you have bad promoters, usually the bad ones don't last all that long. I don't think that it really is fair to say that they don't play with more punk or Oi! bands, cause at least around here they are. A lot of the older bands do play with punk bands, like Reagan Youth, they are really playing a whole lot of metal shows. And I don't begrudge any band doing whatever show they want to book...I can tell you that metal kids spend more on merch and such then punk kids (at least in NYC) and while everyone likes to complain and rant about how this band sold out and that band sold out, eating is better then not eating, so hell yeah, I'd go on tour with a metal band!


Blake- I think the venue situation is getting worse and worse, being from L.E.S there is no more venues to play around here any more... ok so it moved to Brooklyn, but there are still tons of people who wont go to Brooklyn for a show...


THE WHOLE METALCORE THING IS KILLING HARDCORE FOR SURE,BUT THERE ARE SO MANY BANDS THAT ARE TRYNG TO BRING IT BACK - NOT ONLY IN NY BUT ALL OVER THE COUNTRY ,COULD U PLEASE TELL US SOME NAMES OF THE CURRENT BEST BANDS IN NY? WHO DESERVE SOME RECOGNITION AND WHO DESEVES NOT?WHO & WHY IS KILLING HARDCORE FOR U?


To be honest I couldn't really name who is playing metalcore these days in NY, cause I am not involed in that scene. Good NYC bands that I think are cool are Everyday Dollars, Caught In A Trap, Reason Enough, Dealin' With It, Voice Or No Voice, Step 2 Far, The Mug$, Sick Of Society, Back To Back and Reason To Fight.


IN YOUR EYES,WHY THERES A LACK OF YOUTH IN THE CURRENT HARDCORE SCENE?

Two reasons. 1st, a lot of the venues in NYC are 21+ so the kids can't get in, and the old folks from back in the day don't wanna go out, so that makes it hard to get a big crowd at a show.2nd, I think a lot of kids are appathetic, they just spead all day on Myspace and Facebook. When I was coming up in the scene, you wanted to hear a band, you went to a show and checked them out and hopefully bought a 7" or an LP. Today, they just go on Myspace, check out the music and never go out.


TALKING OF YOUTHS - WHERE ARE THE STRAIGHT EDGE YOUTH CREWS RIGHT NOW?EXCEPT FOR Poison Proof,ARE THERE IN NEW YORK SOME STRAIGHT EDGE BANDS?

Poison Proof still around? What happened to them? There is really no sxe youth crews any more.. If there are, they listen to new school hc or metalcore. Most of them are in the suburbs.


I HAVE THIS STRONG FEELING,THAT HARDCORE IS DYING FOR THE SAKE OF MASS MEDIA & SHIT...I MEAN,HARDCORE IS REALLY DYING OR IS THERE A CHANCE TO A NEW AND RIGHTFUL WAVE OF HARDCORE PUNK,OR IT'LL ALL VANISH DEVOURED BY MTV& STUFF IN FEW YEARS? I HOPE NOT BUT...

Hardcore maybe down but its not dying, this beast still has a lot of fight in it!
FEW MORE STUPID QUESTIONS,BEST & LIFE CHANGING RECORDS?BEST 7'' & BEST LP?


Ted:Best 7" - Supertouch "What Did We Learn E.P." Best LP - Token Entry "From Beneath The Streets"

Blake: 7"- Outburst "Miles To Go! LP" - a mix between Sick Of It All "Blood Sweat And No Tears" Killing Time" Brightside" Leway "Born To Expire"


HARCORE = PUNK? OR ISN'T IT? THERES SOME PEOPLE OUTTA HERE WHO'S ARGUING IT'S NOT..(fuck em by the way...)

Yeah it is, anyone who says its not doesn't know the real definition of hardcore

ANY LAST SHOUT OUTS?(STUO TUOHS!)

Thanks for doing the interview, and please pick up a copy of "Empire State" (our full length). Check out our music video for the song "False Idols" online. And just keep posted on our myspace for shows and more..






Thanks!







FIRST POST ALREADY! Yeeh-Haw!

Hello folks,its XGIXX here!
this is the first post of the FxSxBx! and its quite an exemple of what this blog is or should be about: an hardcore punk online fanzine/webzine.Plain and simple.Here you can find a whole lotta things about the fuckup scene we live today,interviews,record reviews (but no downloads) tons of shit for everyone, thats it.Who cares if you have a mohawk,wear suspenders or and Champion stuff or have Crass's patches....its hardcore punk anyway,even if the fashion changes and the labels too.Real recognizes real.....for REAL!

Said this : i wont allow any racist stuff/metaldeathfagrapemoshityourpantsoff anyaway.The first step to take it back is CUT the useless and corrupted SHIT out of the scene - second SUPPORTING the bands you like,the TRUE INDIE labels and rebuilt the underground as we used to know it.Will and knowledge are the words lets do it together,lets DIY...now its up to US!!